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Hey everyone,

We just got back from the Parks Board meeting regarding China Creek. Both
sides presented arguments for and against for about 3 hours. (Howard
Redekopp, Jeff Chan, Calen Sinclaire, Derek DeLand, Doug Donut, Dan
Cummer, Jay Pay, a couple of neighbours in favour, including Cate
Atkinson, and me, Kim Glennie, spoke to save the bowls, several neighbours
spoke against keeping them.) Mark Vuillamy recommended preserving China
Creek, Michel DesRochers did not speak out against them, just presented
options 1 and 3.

I'll cut to the chase with the good news - the commissioners present are
recommending Option 1 - that is keeping the skatepark! Korina Houghton,
Loretta Woodcock and Spencer Herbert were all in favour of keeping the
bowls. It will go to vote in the beginning of next year, no other
commissioners were present, but Al DeGenova has already voiced his
support, so that means we have a majority!

At the end, and to summarize, the commissioners commended the VSPC on
their positive action and organization, while recognizing that some of the
concerns residents have are real and need to be addressed. The Parks Board
did not agree that removing the bowls would keep the 'bad' element out of
the park; in fact they thought the opposite was true. The Parks Board felt
that all wooden ramps need to be removed, as well as possibly the rail, to
limit noise issues, and to also make the park look cleaner. Korina
Houghton also acknowledged the historic value of the bowls, she really
seemed in favour of some sort of plaque, Loretta Woodcock said we all seem
like a great community with lots of history, and Spencer Herbert said the
skatepark was far more likely to scare away negative activity than attract
it.

Also, the commissioners suggested we all need to work together - that is -
meet with residents sometime in future - and cooperate on how this can
work for everyone. I suggested doing skateboard mentorship or lessons,
through a shop or community centre, and after the meeting, I spoke with
several of the complainants, offered my email address, and said I would
bring up their concerns and possible solutions at the meeting tomorrow.
The Parks Board MAY organize a meeting so we can all get together sometime
also. The woman I spoke longest to, Barb, was the Cedar House community
policing rep, and really wanted the skatepark gone. I tried to make some
suggestions, and she seemed amenable to some of them. They also would like
to be invited to the next event, which would be a great way of helping
them be less intimidated by us skaters. Anyhow, they are open to
discussion with us, in varying degrees, because, really - we all want the
same thing - a great park for everyone. With an amazing skate facility as
well!

So thanks to everyone who took the time to write an email, come out to the
event, show up for any or all of the meetings - it seems like our hard
work has paid off.

See ya tomorrow at the meeting,
Kim and Derek


Published On: 12/6/2006
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Hey everyone,

We just got back from the Parks Board meeting regarding China Creek. Both sides presented arguments for and against for about 3 hours. (Howard Redekopp, Jeff Chan, Calen Sinclaire, Derek DeLand, Doug Donut, Dan Cummer, Jay Pay, a couple of neighbours in favour, including Cate Atkinson, and me, Kim Glennie, spoke to save the bowls, several neighbours spoke against keeping them.) Mark Vuillamy recommended preserving China Creek, Michel DesRochers did not speak out against them, just presented options 1 and 3.

I'll cut to the chase with the good news - the commissioners present are
recommending Option 1 - that is keeping the skatepark! Korina Houghton,
Loretta Woodcock and Spencer Herbert were all in favour of keeping the
bowls. It will go to vote in the beginning of next year, no other
commissioners were present, but Al DeGenova has already voiced his
support, so that means we have a majority!

At the end, and to summarize, the commissioners commended the VSPC on
their positive action and organization, while recognizing that some of the
concerns residents have are real and need to be addressed. The Parks Board
did not agree that removing the bowls would keep the 'bad' element out of
the park; in fact they thought the opposite was true. The Parks Board felt
that all wooden ramps need to be removed, as well as possibly the rail, to
limit noise issues, and to also make the park look cleaner. Korina
Houghton also acknowledged the historic value of the bowls, she really
seemed in favour of some sort of plaque, Loretta Woodcock said we all seem
like a great community with lots of history, and Spencer Herbert said the
skatepark was far more likely to scare away negative activity than attract
it.

Also, the commissioners suggested we all need to work together - that is -
meet with residents sometime in future - and cooperate on how this can
work for everyone. I suggested doing skateboard mentorship or lessons,
through a shop or community centre, and after the meeting, I spoke with
several of the complainants, offered my email address, and said I would
bring up their concerns and possible solutions at the meeting tomorrow.
The Parks Board MAY organize a meeting so we can all get together sometime
also. The woman I spoke longest to, Barb, was the Cedar House community
policing rep, and really wanted the skatepark gone. I tried to make some
suggestions, and she seemed amenable to some of them. They also would like
to be invited to the next event, which would be a great way of helping
them be less intimidated by us skaters. Anyhow, they are open to
discussion with us, in varying degrees, because, really - we all want the
same thing - a great park for everyone. With an amazing skate facility as
well!

So thanks to everyone who took the time to write an email, come out to the
event, show up for any or all of the meetings - it seems like our hard
work has paid off.

See ya tomorrow at the meeting,
Kim and Derek




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Published On: 12/6/2006
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This article was written by Jeff Chan for beyondrobson.com - so show up Saturday and support China Creek, skate, see a demo, have some hot chocolate. It will be fun.


China Creek Appreciation Day!

Vancouver's rich skateboard history would not be the same without China Creek. Built in 1979, it's the oldest skatepark in Vancouver, the second-oldest in Canada, and one of the few North American concrete skateparks from the 1970s that's still in existence. And now it may be in danger. A few concerned locals, among them the Vancouver Skateboard Coalition, have been doing what they can to drum up support and have successfully gained some attention through articles in The Courier, The Province, 24 Hours, and Metro; radio interviews with CBC and CKNW; and, to date, two meetings with Vancouver Parks Board officials. The response has been encouraging, but we're not in the clear yet, so the Vancouver Skateboard Coalition and the Neighbours in Support of the Skatepark are going to host a China Creek Appreciation Day to highlight the positive energy associated with this historic place.

China Creek Appreciation Day will take place on Saturday, November 18th from 1-4pm at China Creek Skatepark. Rain or shine. There'll be a skate jam, a prize giveaway at 2:00, and tents serving coffee and hot chocolate... to accommodate us on the ever-so-slight chance that it rains.


Published On: 11/16/2006
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 This article was written by Jeff Chan for beyondrobson.com - so show up Saturday and support China Creek, skate, see a demo, have some hot chocolate. It will be fun.


China Creek Appreciation Day!

Vancouver's rich skateboard history would not be the same without China Creek. Built in 1979, it's the oldest skatepark in Vancouver, the second-oldest in Canada, and one of the few North American concrete skateparks from the 1970s that's still in existence. And now it may be in danger. A few concerned locals, among them the Vancouver Skateboard Coalition, have been doing what they can to drum up support and have successfully gained some attention through articles in The Courier, The Province, 24 Hours, and Metro; radio interviews with CBC and CKNW; and, to date, two meetings with Vancouver Parks Board officials. The response has been encouraging, but we're not in the clear yet, so the Vancouver Skateboard Coalition and the Neighbours in Support of the Skatepark are going to host a China Creek Appreciation Day to highlight the positive energy associated with this historic place.

China Creek Appreciation Day will take place on Saturday, November 18th from 1-4pm at China Creek Skatepark. Rain or shine. There'll be a skate jam, a prize giveaway at 2:00, and tents serving coffee and hot chocolate... to accommodate us on the ever-so-slight chance that it rains.
 


Published On: 11/16/2006
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Hi all,

The Parks Board seems intent on tearing down China Creek skatepark. It's a pretty old, some say historic park, but the main thing is, they shouldn't be getting rid of skateparks, they should be building more, or improving the ones we have. For info on what's up, check this out:
 
For Jeff chan's article on beyondrobson.com, check here:
 
But, it's not over yet - it's a public process, and there are options for us. Michel did say that the elected Parks Board members do not always follow the staffs' recommendations, so we can lobby the individual PB members directly. Their contact info is on the Park's
Board website... maybe this could be our next step, something we could do as a united effort by the VSPC and the skate community.

Here's the link to the Park's Board commissioners info:
http://vancouver.ca/parks/board/commissioners.htm

Al DeGenova has always been on side for skateboarding... he'd be good to approach about this.

One other thing to consider is that we can delay the whole process from being completed... if we insist on not having any 'interruption of service' (which according to the woman Parks Board staffer, I forget her name, is what they usually do) - meaning they CAN'T tear down the park until they find another location and build a park there... so if they were planning on tearing down the park in spring, too bad, they would have to
get a new location approved first and build something there before they could touch China Creek.

If we're considering lobbying the elected Parks Board members, Derek and I
still have all the old China Creek petitions that we collected names on - about 600 names in total... and we can start another round of petitions, and get letters from people (local politicians, business owners, skaters, pros... etc... ), present these to each individual PB commissioner, get the media out, etc.

Another thing, about the washrooms that they can't afford to build... didn't the Parks Board just build a million dollar washroom and expensive restaurant at Kits Beach like last year? Why is there money for buildings like that in a park but no money for washrooms in East Van?

Anyhow, we have options, it's not over yet - so let's not be too discouraged, and let's start planning the next step -

Check the antisocial site for the next Skate Coalition meeting...


Published On: 10/12/2006
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Last Chance to Vote: China Creek Skatepark meeting Oct. 11th 7:00 pm 800 East Broadway
 
Seems like this is the final meeting for the China Creek upgrades, so let's all try to
make it out and vote. Tell your friends, etc...

I just checked out the Parks Board site, and there are 2 options to vote
on, as far as how they will deal with the upgrades:

One is to keep the skatepark, and put a playground to the west of it,
divided by some trees and landscaping.

The other option is to remove the current skatepark and replace it a
playground, and build what seems to be a much smaller park to the west of
that.

Here is the link showing the 2 options the Parks Board has offered:

http://vancouver.ca/parks/info/planning/chinacreeksouth/whatnext.htm

Hope lots of skaters turn out for the vote!


Published On: 10/5/2006
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