ok i need to build a 3 1/2 footer just to get better on the coping. it seems simple enough using the bucket trick. my cuz is ganna help since he's helped build skateparks and all. he's built a mini ramp with $50,(he borrowed some wood from a construction site), and ill tell that story to ya when your older. how much does it cost???????? any common problems? any comments? thanks

my 4 ft high 8ft wide and 24 ft ft long cost me approx 650$ + 100 for beer a common problem is finding the right slope, i prefer usiing the rope and pencil method which can be explained on Heckler.com easier that i can. also a nother common Problem is finding the flat section length between the vert. i ratio i find is the best is for every foot of tranny/vert you need two feet of flat, there fore for a 8 foot high pipe you need 16 ft of flat. atntheskater