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Hilarious

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Posted on May 16, 2008

i may not be the greatest skateboarder, but i have a big bag of tricks, and an above average ability of putting them into words step by step.  if you or someone you know is having a frustrating time learning a trick, feel free to post about it here, and i'll try to put my two sense in.  maybe it won't be so frustrating any longer. 
 
-and if i can't help you, i know there's plenty of others here that can.

Hilarious

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Posted on May 16, 2008

Keep forgetting how inactive this forum is.  Needs to be.. more eye catching or something.  Get people's attention.

chrisboarder17

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Posted on May 19, 2008

ok i wanna learn how to samba flip.

Hilarious

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Posted on May 20, 2008

Oh yeah, let's keep it street tricks.
Samba Flip is the one Bob Burnquist does with his hands right?
Otherwise, I'm clueless.

chrisboarder17

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Posted on May 21, 2008

yup. how about the flamingo?

Hilarious

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Posted on May 22, 2008

that i can help you with.
 
there's different ways to setup for this one, too.
me personally am like widespread panic cause, i have one foot on the nose and one on the tail.
this trick happens very quickly, and you can practice by doing the motions standing beside your board (assuming you know the motions [if you don't then, how the hell do you know this is called a flamingo? lol]).
 
stand beside your board at first, and try scooping the tail and wrapping the board around your front foot's calf muscle.  if you can get this far, you're closer than you think to the actual trick.
 
this trick is all about pressure.  edging your front foot off the nose can cause your board to explode into your back knee cap.  so you want it to be able to slide your front foot off to get a decent pop and have enough time to plant your front foot on the ground.  that is where experimentation falls in.  adding more or less weight on the front foot.
 
once you've got it to where you think you have control of the pop, now its time to scoop.  remember standing beside your board trying to scoop?  well, you get half the luxury here.  cause by this time during the trick, you'll be standing on your front foot!  locking your board around your calf can be a pain.  some times it might lock around the back of your knee or even down low near your ankle -experience will fix this over time.
 
when you finally get that first one to successfully wrap around your front leg, coming out of a Flamingo seems like a whole new mess.  you don't want to hang your board there too long cause, that ticks away at your cool-points.  some people use their hands, but i think that takes away the fonzie of this trick, so i don't.  that's just me though.
 
to get out of this knot, you basically have to reverse your motion completely.  landing primo is common, so beware.
 
setup, slide your front foot off and slam it on the ground beside your board, scoop your tail and aim behind your front leg (calf area), lock in, check your mirrors, reverse your motion with a hop, pray you don't get a primo, and land.
 
other tricks that can be developed from learning this trick are Impossibles and No Complies.

2muchsteeze

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Posted on Jun 03, 2008

yeh man i've been having trouble with the ye old infamous kickflip for like a year now, i just don't know what it is, like i flip it every time catch it with my front foot every time, and most times when in the grss i can land it, every now and again it comes around propely and i get it, but its just, my deck keeps flying out infrom of my back foot to far every time, i can't catch wiht my back foot on this trick for some reason, and its relly pissing me off.
 

Hilarious

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Posted on Jun 03, 2008

Posted by 2muchsteeze
yeh man i've been having trouble with the ye old infamous kickflip for like a year now, i just don't know what it is, like i flip it every time catch it with my front foot every time, and most times when in the grss i can land it, every now and again it comes around propely and i get it, but its just, my deck keeps flying out infrom of my back foot to far every time, i can't catch wiht my back foot on this trick for some reason, and its relly pissing me off.
 
 
Have you tried converting to Heel Flips?  lol, Kidding.
 
Kick Flips.. seems like a lot people have more trouble on these than most tricks.  I usually have trouble with Kick Flips whenever I get a new deck with sticky grip tape.  A lot of this trick is commitment, and it sounds like that's what you're missing by what you said about landing them in the grass.  Picture yourself doing a Kick Flip.  First of all, does it look decent in your mind?  lol, Can you imagine yourself landing a proper Kick Flip?  Do you know what one looks  like?  These are questions you should be able to answer before you set out to perfect your Kick Flip.  Landing with one foot, whether it be the front or back is all from not committing.  You have to be ready to take the falls with the makes.  Otherwise, nothing is going to happen successfully.
 
Pop, then flick.  My buddy Mike has the problem with popping and flicking simultaneously, and it develops more of a roll than anything else.  If you want height out of a Kick Flip, you need to learn how to pop before your front foot leaves the nose and does the flick.  Take it slow.  Literally.  Pop.. then.. flick!  Jumping higher definitely helps with giving you enough air-time to allow a full rotation, obviously.  Also, I feel jumping higher is safer, too.  Gives you more time to think and see what's going on, instead of rushing yourself into another mistake.
 
Foot placement for setting up isn't really all that important.  You can get a Kick Flip from just about anywhere on the deck.  But, be sure to adjust with new foot placements to see where it works best for you.  Also, when crouching before any trick, try not to get too low.  Because that'll throw off your balance (unless its working for you then never mind, i guess).
 
Like all tricks, you get better from experience.  You gain knowledge of how much power you need to put into your flick in order to get the board to flip correctly.  But I'm guessing you have more problems with the landing, right?  You just have to say "fuck it" and plant your feet down, Man.  Wussing out on a trick can be more risky than not wussing out.  Landing with one foot on the tail can cause the board to catapult upwards.  And nobody wants that!
 
I could say, watch videos and slow mo them.  Just to get the technique down.  I do it all the time with tricks I want to learn.  But like I said before, if you can visualize the trick being done in your mind beforehand, you're that much closer to actually landing the trick.  Visualize, and execute.

[Edited by Hilarious on 6/3/2008 at 9:56 PM]

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