It’s a sad thing to notice how similar both of these wars have become. Both wars have people who disagreed with it to begin with (then again all wars have that) but the protests are huge. They are even the people who go to the extreme to harass the soldier who come home from war because “they had no right to go to war”… they really had no choice. I support their efforts on trying to stop the war, but they go too far when they harass the soldiers at their funerals, at their homecomings, and even their families. The “War” on Iraq is this generations Vietnam. What do you think about it?

I would have to disagree, Operation Iraqi Freedom (HA!) cannot be compared to the Vietnam War. Vietnam spurred an entire cultural revolution. Kids were in the streets throwing bombs. Where do we see that now? NOwhere do i hear about mass demonstrations. Also, the war currently is not changing our values, beliefs, major laws, etc. Vietnam brought about major social changes. That was the turning point from the old conservative values of yesterday to the newer liberal values of today This war is significant though. It is showing hte incompetency of our nation. It shows how we are an empire. It shows that we are under the direct control of Israel. It shows that our government goes to war under false pretenses. It shows that the people are helpless against the whims of little dictators. It shows just how far the executive powers have extended. With each presidency, the office has gained more and more control. Congress is a mere joke. The war also represents the turning point in the global economy. oh, and i have run out of time again! isnt that annoying...

i had this conversation with my mom this morning and im not comparing rates of death... and vietman had about 10 years to rake up that many. im just talking about in terms of how we are acting about the whole thing.

in terms of how we are acting? Sure, each war is the same. Attach some sort of moral and emotional significance to the conflict called the "cause". Recently (past several decades), the "cause" has been bringing democracy around the world, similar to a crusader in the middle ages bringing Christianity to the Muslims. Every war has a justification for the public so that they will go to war. If the government told the citizens the true reasons for every war, which are primarily economic, nobody would support it. How could one support a war that is making wealthy men even wealthier? Nobody is gonna die to make some rich basturd even richer. Thats not how this game of domination works....instead, you tell the people we are declaring for war because "it is our moral and ethical obligation". Thus, the Iraq war, similar to Vietnam, WW2, Korea, is supposedly about bring freedom and democracy. In that regard, the two wars are similar, yes.

^people were too high on lsd? right there you made a hasty generalization, bud. NOT all the people were high on lsd. dont tell me ol' gramps in the rocking chair was shootin up... Lots of people realized what was happening. Why do you think kids were in the streets? and We are seeing a shift in support. Most of America right now does not know why we went there, does not think we should continue to be there, and overall does not support the war. news coverage of war? what a joke...the military at this point is only going to let the cameras see what they want them to see. This is clearly evident in the Isreali-Palestinian conflict and the current, Iraqi Freedom Operation.

^^ You say that now, a lot of americans are against the whole iraq thing. Jear, well, where was all that resistance when Bush was actually beginning the war?? Then most part of usa thought it was the perfect idear, but suddenly when it goes all wrong, everybody goes, Hey, i said it was a bad idear! I could just tell you to sail you're own lake, ´cuz i live is this small anonomys country, but we just had to support Bush and now were told in school how to act if there is gonna be a bombing outside the school! And I am told to be afraid to get home from school with train and bus, because there is gonna be a toerror attack! All I am saying is just that... I dont really know, i just had to say it! And by the way, there is no way you can compare Vietnam and Iraq. Iraq was Bush's pissing ccontest with the world, and Vietnam was an "interne" than USA had no business in!

Posted by: Aras_Tamoliunas Lots of people realized what was happening. Why do you think kids were in the streets? and We are seeing a shift in support. Most of America right now does not know why we went there, does not think we should continue to be there, and overall does not support the war.

exactly what i was saying. in the 60/70's, people gave the soldiers shit when they came home because they didnt think we should have involved ourselves in the war. there was an insident in this "war" where protesters where at a soldiers funeral protesting because they believed that it was "God" punishing them for accepting gays. its all bull sh*t!

Im thinking about joing the army. mmmmm guns!

WTF, elaborate.

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^so you are saying that the Iraqis have receipts for the "weapons"? Supposing this is even true, the Iraqis would still have to have had a delivery system. Everyone thinks that jsut because a country has enriched uraniam or plutonium, it is a nuclear threat. This is simply not true. You have to have a delivery system for that "weapon" to pose any threat. Its like having bullets, but no gun. Second, just how do we know the Iraqis had these "reciepts"? Third, even if they did have these reciepts, how can we be so sure that they arent forged by our own government? It would be mighty advantageous to make it look like Iraq purchased these weapons... Lastly, im not supposing that we didnt sell the Iraqi gov. nuclear weapons...i just think you need to present some facts to go with it.

^ambiguous pronoun reference...

Posted by: saskboarder81 mmmmmm guns dont you mean mmmmm army food(i hear its good)

Shit dude all i eat is kraft dinner and ichi ban these days. it would be a welcomed change.

I dont think hes pro war really. I think hes more into rebuilding our relations with the US.